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Tomato Shibby's Releases

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by shibby20, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. Lorenceo

    Lorenceo Networkin' Nut Member

    Has anyone else noticed that openssl will sometimes lock up, generating a lot of CPU load while trying to download ad blocklists?
    Example below:
  2. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Any news on this?
  3. hshah

    hshah LI Guru Member

    Does anyone know if it is possible to update nginx on the router without having to update the entire firmware?
  4. ruggerof

    ruggerof LI Guru Member

    Install and run it from Entware-NG
  5. hshah

    hshah LI Guru Member

    Is it possible to install Entware on JFFS?
  6. hshah

    hshah LI Guru Member

    Well that was easy... did that, installed nginx. Now the original one is still there, so I just disable that from the GUI?
  7. Jose C

    Jose C Reformed Router Member


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  8. RichtigFalsch

    RichtigFalsch Networkin' Nut Member

    It has become really calm here! Are you all just happy with current release, or did so many people ditch Linksysinfo and Tomato? :(
  9. apreslin

    apreslin New Member Member

    I have used Tomato for about 7 years. The main reason I have stuck with it because I love the ability to see bandwidth usage of all the devices of my network in nice pretty graphs and tables along with logging visited web sites, and ASUS stock or DD-WRT doesn't give that.

    Unfortunately in the latest builds of Tomato Shibby, I have not been able to have a constant stable 5GHz network. I'm not sure where it started, although of course MultiWAN seemed to make the firmware a different animal. The issues started on my ASUS RT-AC68U. Hoping different hardware that runs on a different wireless driver might bring a different result, I upgraded to the ASUS RT-AC3200. I still have the issues with unstable 5GHz. About once a day or so, 5GHz seems to go down and all devices disconnect. I know that going back to version 132 may fix the issue, although I don't want to stay frozen on a build from 2015. I have seen others in this thread also report this issue. I have also seen some other network stability quirks, but it's hard to definitively say it's the wireless and not my device or WAN connection in those cases. I do not see any issues logged at the issues tracker https://bitbucket.org/pl_shibby/tomato-arm/issues?status=new&status=open describing this issue, so not sure if I'm just having bad luck or it's not impacting a significant amount of other people. Yesterday, in hopes of fixing the stability, I decided to give Kille72's fork a shot. So far so good, but it's only been a day. Although, I've read through the changelog and do not see any changes that are obvious regarding 5GHz stability so I have low expectation there.

    I do understand that can be the nature of using 3rd party firmware, and I'm definitely thankful for all the time and effort Shibby and others have put into it. I have researched all the options and tried tweaking various settings that I thought may possibly affect it, but have never been able to eliminate the drops. I've tried different channels of course. It's frustrating since of course the best speeds with limited interference is on 5GHz 802.11ac, and I have 15 devices on 5GHz and 9 on 2.4GHz on my network.
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2017
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  10. Tomato User

    Tomato User Network Newbie Member


    I'm using this as a wired setup.
    When I do a speed test, download speed is 40Mbs slower than if I watch a youtube video while doing a test.

    My dlink gets good speeds without a youtube video running.

    anyone know why this is happening?
    Supposedly the Asus is good for 700Mb+


    Last edited: Aug 27, 2017
  11. NutsN'bolts

    NutsN'bolts Network Newbie Member

    @asprelin: Same here, any multiwan version was bad for me.
    I'm still on 132 cause i need (selective)upnp and that doesnt work for me with any multiwan version.
    I've also read that Tomato wont support SQM Qos with fq_codel and thats something i would really love to try to get rid of the bufferbloat and latency spikes when downloading and gaming.
    I really love Tomato but i guess i have to switch to LEDE Project (open wrt) soon.
    Same as aspreslin i dont wanne stay on a 2015 build forever...
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  12. Tomato User

    Tomato User Network Newbie Member

    I was using tomato-K26USB-1.28.RT-N5x-MIPSR2-140-AIO-64K now I loaded tomato-K26-1.28.RT-N5x-MIPSR2-140-Mini.
    Same results.

    *Also I am unable to disable IPv6 IPSec Passthrough.
    After saving if I refresh the page, its checked again.
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2017
  13. RichtigFalsch

    RichtigFalsch Networkin' Nut Member

    Unless you need MultiWAN maybe Toastman's build woudl b best for you? He adds only most important features to his builds and has the focus on stability.
    After years of experiments even my old 3500Lv2 seems to be running fine now.
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  14. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Networkin' Nut Member

    That's a MIPS CPU, Tomato doesn't enable CTF on MIPS so forget about that 700+. Best performance boost is obtained by enabling fast nat by typing modprobe bcm_nat. Give it a try. Best case scenario you will get 200-250 mbps.
    About the speed increase when watching a movie: I have no clue. Could be some kind of weird ISP throttling?

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  15. Tomato User

    Tomato User Network Newbie Member

    Thank you.
    I have a dlink and it gets full speed with no youtube playing.
    I will try fast nat, thanks


    It does seem to work
    Are there any security implications using modprobe bcm_nat?

    Last edited: Aug 28, 2017
  16. apreslin

    apreslin New Member Member

    I'm glad you suggested this. I knew Toastman builds existed, but never really investigated it since it seemed like Shibby was the most popular and active in development. I don't need features such as MultiWAN and stability is important to me. I just put Toastman on my ASUS RT-AC3200, and if it keeps 5GHz stable, I don't think I'll look back.

    I notice you can use DFS channels too, something that you couldn't do with Shibby as described in https://bitbucket.org/pl_shibby/tomato-arm/issues/119/channel-selection-5ghz-ac-80mhz
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  17. asturnauta

    asturnauta Addicted to LI Member


    I have an Asus RT-AC68U with this firmware. This router has a button to turn on/off leds.
    It is possible to enable this button with this firmware?

    Thanks a lot.
  18. Sean B.

    Sean B. LI Guru Member

    There's no support for the button yet, or will be at all that I'm aware of ( not sure why though ). However, the LEDs can be controlled from software via modifying the StealthMode script.
  19. poiu12

    poiu12 New Member Member

    It depends. With recent progress in Fast Path, it's possible to get faster speed on MIPS cpu. It's even possible to run some qos functions at the same time, which is impractical for CTF. Hope Shibby will adapt Fast Path into tomato soon.

  20. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Networkin' Nut Member

    That is new... thanks for sharing.

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  21. PeterT

    PeterT Network Guru Member

    From looking at that link, it's for LEDE that in turn is based on OpenWRT and is using a kernel 4.xxxx.

    I seriously doubt that it could be back ported to Tomato

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  22. The Master

    The Master Network Guru Member

    LEDE has the same Limits as Tomato. Most WLan drivers are NOT OpenSource. So Example. My R7000 Router has LEDE Support BUT NO Wlan.
  23. sandspike

    sandspike LI Guru Member

    Looks like Toastman's builds have no updates, and Shibby's updates are always unstable and focused on Multi-WAN. I'm thinking this could be the end of my Tomato experiment on my R7000. Just too many stories of unstable builds, so I am still on Shibby 1.32, what is everyone else running? I read in Toastman's thread that Koitsu left....that's not good.
  24. Mr9v9

    Mr9v9 Serious Server Member

    You guys talking about users leaving, wanting to leave, or even issues that never seem to get fixed have to just stop depressing everyone else. Some users just have bad luck, suck at their job, or seriously don't know what the hell they are doing with electronics in their home. There is going to be a disagreement but the facts are buried here for everyone to read.

    Tomato has always been unstable because there are users who always want it to do something new with outdated code or tools...without paying for the development mind you. (Yes I know most of you who donate.) They would like it to match the latest and greatest features after playing with something that offers them those tools.

    All the great devs here including @shibby20 have poured more time and effort than you or I would ever want to devote, just to keep us end users happy and getting what they want out of this experiment. The miles of complaints are just insane...yes there are issues, have I experienced them? Not to the same level as some of the crazy stories I have read on here over the years that are borderline occult. But to give up because some graph is the wrong color now, or my f*(&^%#$ UPnP isn't working anymore! Just makes zero sense to users like me for a Beta firmware.

    Here is the solution to all your complaints:
    If you are a Pro that requires certain features working out of the box and it is mission critical, then seriously just get yourself a Mikrotik or Meraki router for your business right now. What were you thinking?

    If you are still having "wifi range/stability issues" get yourself an enterprise WiFi deployment using something like Ubiquiti. Set your configs for range to "Auto" and stop tinkering for "The Most Powerful WiFi in the Area!"

    If you have no idea what you are doing here and following the herd with your Router, then get yourself something with a simple GUI like TPLink or Asus. Don't leave though, learn! :D

    If you are a fancy boy, fancy girl, or fancy gender-neutral :oops: and like impressing your friends with your Router, but you have no idea what you are doing, then try out a Synology router for a change of scenery.

    If you are a weekend techie and understand what you want out of your home network, then hack your Router & use one of the fine updated builds of DD-WRT towards your setup, plus a change of pace!

    If you are one of those "cool guys" that likes to hang out here, get yourself two Routers, both with great Tomato support, and try out different flavors, configs, settings on the second one. That firmware list is long with many branches! Get a stable setup running that makes you smile :D, then set it as the heart of your main network and forget about every problem you ever read on these forums. If issues crop up you can always go back to to your old one right? As always we are all here to help you! ;)

    If you are a hardcore user and knows how to make your Atheros enabled SoC with UART ports hanging out an off the grid anywhere Router, then why are you even here reading this? Get your ass back to compiling for your 80+ packages on your custom setup of OpenWrt.

    Let's not make this leap to the end of Tomato on page 80. We still have a ways to go to get to page 100 you know?
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  25. NutsN'bolts

    NutsN'bolts Network Newbie Member

    Ahh sorry, but you have triggered me with this sentence... :(
    You are talking about beta firmware but the last "stable" build of shibby is v132 of 2015 !!
    What I'm trying to say is that I can understand people who don't want to stay forever on a two year old build to not break things that have worked properly before.

    Well i can only speak for my self but I personally dont need and want any crazy new features.
    To be honest, I dont even know what features you mean.
    Adblocking with the Router would be nice but recent Vpn-Client/openvpn updates and working upnp is all I need.
    I think that I understand what Beta means, but new things should be beta, not old features imho.
    So basicly im not the guy who requested anything, im just the one who cries when something essential (for me) isnt working anymore..

    For me it seems like that there is no real quality control with those beta builds if it breaks simple things like UPNP.
    Sorry but i can't mention this often enough.

    Of course I can upgrade to arm-based and Tomato-supported hardware to test kille's build but currently I have no reason to do so.
    I would really love to help with those "betas" but I guess my knowledge and skill is too weak to be a helping hand...

    Anyway, I've switched to a WRT1900ACS and try my luck with LEDE ...
    But I still like tomato and I'm not saying I'm finished with it ;)

    Sorry for my bad english and keep up the great work !!
  26. RMerlin

    RMerlin Network Guru Member

    These are one-man projects. It's not like we have a team of dedicated testers in a QA department to test every single aspect of our development.
  27. NutsN'bolts

    NutsN'bolts Network Newbie Member

    You are right and I honor your work. Trust me on this !

    All I can say is that tomato was always great and "very stable" for me.
    I've used Victek's builds in the past and ended up at Shibby's.
    I dont use any crazy features and configurations and with Tomato my Router never had any stability and performance issues.
    Maybe i ran into a few QoS problems but most of them were probably my own faults, as i'm not a extra skilled techie guru like others here.

    So for me it is time to switch to something new, which is updated more frequently and has some new features i like to try out.
    For example SQM QoS...

    I will still use tomato for my access points and maybe for selective VPN, if I don't run into performance issues with my new line 100/40.
    And I will probably miss the nice GUI of Tomato. ;)

    Sorry for so much OT !
  28. Dhaval Shah

    Dhaval Shah New Member Member

    Hey guys I have been using tomato on many routers for years

    Recently I bought Asus RT as 56u and found some bugs
    1. USB drives don't mount after power off/reboot
    Unless unplugged and plugged again
    2. When bandwidth limiter is enabled USB storage reads speeds go to a very slow like 200KBps which is very weird
    I have 500 gb her formated to ext 4
    Have tried other pendrives in diff formats too
  29. AndreDVJ

    AndreDVJ Addicted to LI Member

    Both read and writes to USB drives are slow when bandwidth limiter is enabled on ARM routers. I guess there's no fix for this issue.
  30. RaStr1

    RaStr1 New Member Member

    Hello, can anybody help me how to enable QOS properly for VPN connection (PPTP client). Currently I can see that all VPN traffic is not matched against any QOS Match Rule, I believe it is because in iptables I can see all VPN traffic only in the PREROUTING chain of mangle table but not in the FORWARD or OUTPUT where QOSO chain is referred. So I do believe that I have to add some new rule into PREROUTING chain for VPN interface(s) but since I am not expert in iptables nor QOS I do not want to screw-up my router.
  31. ziddey

    ziddey Network Guru Member

    Is there a way to specify a specific bssid for a wireless client? There are multiple APs with the same SSID and it somehow always ends up connected to the weakest one. I can specify a channel but it seems to hold no bearing. If I disable and re-enable the wifi, it will almost always connect to the stronger AP, but will be back to the bad one a few hours later.
  32. gawd0wns

    gawd0wns LI Guru Member

    I applaud everyone for the work they have put into this firmware, and the support many in the community have provided over this forum. You have built something truly remarkable. Instead of complaining, I think people should be asking themselves how they can help this project continue, and grow.

    I have donated in the past, and I would honestly be happy with paying for this firmware if it meant attracting/hiring more developers, continued development, and to pay people for their hard work. I think this is a question every large open source project faces sooner or later, and let's face it, life happens and our priorities change. Whether as a not-for-profit, or for-profit entity, doesn't matter to me. It might be even more onerous, and more time consuming-I don't know-This is ultimately up to the developer.

    Just putting it out there out.
  33. RichtigFalsch

    RichtigFalsch Networkin' Nut Member

    The problem is the new hardware as we know. WiFi is having more and more trouble, because of the old Tomato-Kernel. So Tomato has changed from the probably most stable and performant firmware ever (on WRT54s) to a plattform with sub average stability (but still great usability). It's not too bad, but the perfection on the original Linksys just has set near unsurpassable standards.

    The idea (was it from Toastman or Koitsu?) of having the Tomato GUI using some current backend, like DD-WRT (with it's horribly outdated GUI) seems more and more interesting with recent hardware changing even more.
    Also I though about using tomato just for gateway-routing and using an additional access point for WiFi as an option.
  34. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    @RichtigFalsch, OT here, I haven't tested recent Linksys routers, are they really that good and stable? Maybe it's time to test one again?
  35. Tom Parkison

    Tom Parkison Addicted to LI Member

    Is anyone else experiencing router lock-ups and WiFi just dying after some time of being up? I had to reboot my router last night because the 5 GHz WiFi just completely died, after rebooting the router 5 GHz started working again. It was up for about 30 days and then all of a sudden things just went to crap.
  36. maurer

    maurer LI Guru Member

    that's why i've scheduled a weekly reboot on my e2000
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  37. calcousin55

    calcousin55 New Member Member

    I haven't had any problems on my Asus RT-N66U its been up for a couple of months with no issues
  38. Guso.

    Guso. Reformed Router Member

    I've that issue with my E2000 as well and my solution was to disable logs of everything, including ad-block, I've no technical explanation for this but it's running as I'm writing for like a year or so
  39. RichtigFalsch

    RichtigFalsch Networkin' Nut Member

    It's a gradual thing. The closer to the original hardware the better, because the base of Tomato couldn't be changed since then. So for example the step from the latest supported MIPS models (like the ASUS RT-AC66U) have much less problems than ARM based routers (modt current models). But even those later MIPS models won't run as stable with Tomato as the older MIPS1 devices and so on.

    Of course with too old hardware you lose all 'modern' features, like 802.11ac or Gigabit-LAN.
    That's why I said, that maybe using an old WRT54 with an external GBit-Switch and an additional 802.11 Access Point was a great solution, regarding stability and performance. Only the Gateway-Bandwidth would be limited by the router's speed, at higher speeds than about 30MBit/s.

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